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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.29 10:48:00 -
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I have a question for CCP. Did you miss the round table at Fan Fest for Faction Warfare?
I ask this as a corp mate who attended has just told me no one from CCP turned up. Only the players with an interest in FW were there. He also said that devs changed the topic when it was brought up with them. He also said that the previous CSM was unable to bring the topic up successfully (again CCP did not want to know - the devs evaded the topic)
Whilst I would like to see improvements to FW mechanics, I accept that these will not be 5 minutes of coding to achieve. What I DO want to know is if CCP has given up on FW so much that they don't (allegedly) even turn up to their own organised event.
For those who don't know about the state of FW - people are leaving Faction Warfare at the moment as it has purely become a source of easy LP for many people. They only join to get the missions and farm the LP. Stealth Bombers are hard to catch on gates, so they are relatively safe to fly, allowing FW to be almost as safe as regular L4 missions in high sec, with much higher payout. As such, carebears are cashing in massive amounts of LP for faction modules and other kit.
FW should be first and foremost about PvP
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.29 11:31:00 -
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I would encourage everyone who would like to know the answer to this question to show their support in this thread - even if you are not in FW as there is a more fundamental issue that potentially is at stake here.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.29 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cosmic Raider Your mistake was thinking that CCP cares about FW.
I never said they cared - I asked if they bothered to turn up to one of the round table events that they organised.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.29 21:17:00 -
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Just woke up - glad to see more people have shown an interest in this matter. Disappointed that no CCP comment has been received...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.29 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: mkmin I don't think CCP's going to respond here. I think they prefer FW be unofficially abandonware than official. Yup, time find your FW exploits hacks and tricks, because CCP's abandoned it.
Would undertaking said hacks and tricks be considered an exploit at that point then since CCP seem to have given up on it??? Now there is an interesting point of discussion...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.30 02:34:00 -
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Well, so far I am seeing decent support from people who obviously love FW and want it and are frustrated about how things currently stand.
Still no word from CCP on why they (allegedly) failed to attent the round table. I'm sure I am not the only person who was hoping that the round table MAY have been enought to give FW a bit of love and polish - even if no new features were added...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.30 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores Well, CCP?
Well, I can say I wasn't there. But I will check with the people who were listed on our end. Thanks for bringing this up.
I got a post from CCP!!! I'm not sure what to say... Oh wait - got it!!!
"#winning"
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.30 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Skippermonkey Somebody that went to the event said that a Dev was double booked?
How do you double book when the event is planned well in advance???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.30 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Planck
Originally by: Webvan
Originally by: Har Harrison I have a question for CCP. Did you miss the round table at Fan Fest for Faction Warfare?
ok this is just really lame. I'm 2 days into training an alt for FW, planning 30 to 100 days to train this year just for FW. I may as well just go back to training my highsec carebear character, while looking for another mmo that has factions as it's the only type of mmo pvp I like (lots of exp with it). I mean yeah I know it's broke here, ok, but not even showing up is just wrong. Part of why I got a sub for this game, a big part, was for factions, pvp was suppose to be great here. Someone lied, probably just to get free months in the buddy program, more scammers just like the 99.9% around Jita. This is just disappointing. Maybe I just wont show up for paying my sub next month
really dude? You haven't even tried FW and you want to unsub b/c of forum rage? Wowza
For all of the raging about FW it is the most fun I have in eve. Lots to do and the plex mechanics, while they could be improved, are simply awesome for reducing the size of fights to a manageable level and getting rid of the blob (even a few hours before dt). I say this to all FW potentials, just get down here and see if its for you. This game, after all, is what YOU make it.
Umm - isn't the complaint that the plex mechanics break after a few hours, so you only have a few hours AFTER downtime???
And so far - I haven't really seen much raging - just people who have 1) shown an interest in any answer CCP may provide to the question I have asked and/or 2) have an interest in FW and would like to see it iterated on, such that CCP "Deliver".
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.31 01:02:00 -
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I'm glad to hear that that someone did take notes at least - hopefully something happens to them. Disappointed that someone who understood FW didn't show up. It definately would be good for some of the incursion mechanics to potentially be used - even if it is just to make the NPCs smarter...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.31 06:51:00 -
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Still waiting for the answer please CCP...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.31 13:04:00 -
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Was watching some fan fest videos - there is a comment that CCP wants to see small scale PvP
"We want there to be a trade off, not necessarily rock paper scissors - small gang warfare is just as fun as the big fleet stuff"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y4RSYY23g8 - 7:25 onwards
So where is the commitment to FW, starting with the response that was promised...?
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.03.31 23:49:00 -
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I'm glad to see a response as to why no one showed. I guess the next question I have is what everyone else is now asking - what is going to be done to fix/improve FW.
A suggestion I have for CCP is to talk to long term FW corp CEO/directors and/or get the various militia to nominate some representation to discuss the issues and put forwards suggestions. I don't want to marginalise the CSM, but discussions regarding FW DO need input from the people who do it, rather then high sec carebears or null sec alliance members, as only people who flip sov, run FW missions and generally run in the FW PvP fleets will know what they think needs to be done.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.01 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Har Harrison on 01/04/2011 02:52:04 Team BFF definately can fix a number of the bugs one would hope e.g. 1) Faction Standing Penalty for RR on a <-5/gcc militia member 2) Plex spawning mechanics 3) Rebalance of NPCs - ideally making them all somewhat harder so that you can't solo missions etc..
and I would definately say seeing them fixed is a good start.
However there are certain deeper design mechanics that would improve FW immensely. Some are harder then others 1) Corp/Militia Missions - bit like running an Incursion - needs a fleet to work together 2) Real consequences to winning/losing sov 3) PvP being worth more then a gf (good fight) in local (more LP/isk etc...) 4) Logistical issues to handle - this could force PvP by attacking/defending the transports moving war supplies, slaves, etc... 5) Meaning significance in the rank structure - and consequences for those that hurt the militia (ability to force out griefer corps or member of the Faction NPC corp??? etc...???)
Originally by: Jireel PS: I've been looking at faction warfare for some time now, and one of my chars should be free in a approx. a month. Is there any Amarr FW corp alive ? I'm purely looking at the PVP aspect and not willing to do any mission.
We would be interested in recruiting any decent and dedicated pilots - look up Amarrian Retribution in game and send in a mail or join the pub channel
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.01 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Diana Araquez Please keep in mind CCP that most players doing FW warfare now do not in fact want to see the whole system scrapped and replaced with something new, they just want some of the more glaring issues fixed.
I think insisting too much that "FW is broken" might give CCP the wrong ideea that they should remove the complex system of occupancy or make FW more like Dominions sov taking or other changes that would make it even worse than today.
A valid point - though it would be better to have to do something more then just shoot a bunker... Fix some of the bugs and then take stock of where things at is probably a reasonable option before too much gets redeveloped
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.04 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: ITTigerClawIK Edited by: ITTigerClawIK on 02/04/2011 11:08:54
Originally by: Marconus Orion Maybe a live dev blog where players can ask questions and stuff could be scheduled to make up for this? Make a good portion of it about faction warfare? This mistake can easily be redeemed.
Brilliant idea i would like to second this
I already brought up the idea of a live dev blog about FW as an analagous replacement for the FW session missed at Fanfest. We all agreed that in terms of content, breadth, manpower required etc, it would actually be better for everyone to get things down "on paper" first instead of via a live format--especially since most current questions about FW are pretty much the same that have persisted for months if not years. Perhaps later on we could then reserve a portion of a live dev blog about FW.
What do we need to do to assist you with this? You have seen that there are a number of people who are interested in this and therefore it is safe to assume that some of them want to assit CCP with improving FW. To me, the first thing to tackle are some of the bugs like the spawn mechanics and the NPC balance. Longer term, changes to mechanics and new features could then be looked at. I would love to see Soundwave's team look at some of this - the work they have been doing lately has been awesome. <tl;dr> Acknowledgement of the fanfest snafu is great - how do we go to the next stage?
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.04 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 04/04/2011 03:29:46
This might help.... Given that the mechanics work only for a few hours a day the people who understand them are limited.
Here is a list of some I know who understand in some detail how the broken mechanics "work".
Eran Mintor Lost Incognito sasawong Bdericks S5family Condor Amarr boris thebutcher Braitai
Would be a good idea to talk to these people at length before deciding on redesigns.
Raise your hand if you've PvP plexed within 3h of downtime enough to "get it".
These are all good people - many from my corp/militia or the opposition militia and would form a sound starting point.
Bdericks has left FW along with a number of other "senior" FW members due to the current state of FW. One can only hope that CCP responds quickly to this as I am seeing many long time Amarr militia pilots leaving for better PvP opportunities.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.05 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Moolti Speaking for myself and not The Electus Matari:
I would love to do more for FW. Right now we have to have individual corps drop alliance to join FW. I would love for Alliances to have a better way of joining FW.
I tried FW for a while, but while in FW it's all I could do. There was very little way to do anything else. In order to do other stuff, I had to leave FW. Once I left FW, it was easy to stay out of it, and hard to "go do FW for a little bit". I understand how difficult it would be to make this un-expliotable.
It seems to me that the treaty mechanic that has been proposed in the past by CCP would be an excellent way of allowing FW and RP allainces to interact. One other idea I would like to see explored is allowing a SINGLE corp from an alliance to be nominated as their FW affiliated corp (i.e. they are part of the alliance AND militia - similar to how there is an executor corp to control the alliance. The trick here is that FW standigns override all other ones. This could allow CVA or UK for example to have a larger involvement with the militia without the issues of gcc.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.07 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc Bump.
Incidentally, the last two QEN's discussed the positive effect of PvP on the economy, as well as the dangerous trend of fewer PvP incidents per player.
If you're serious about increasing the pew pew, CCP, try a revamp of one of its most accessible forms.
Definately agree with this. Some of the Amarr/Minnie militia fights (Late Nite) see billions of losses on both sides. Eventually this requires a trip to Amarr or Rens etc... to resupply. This HAS to be good for the economy as well as the game in general. Now if only we could get some love from CCP to make FW attractive and to promote even more PvP...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.14 02:44:00 -
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Thought this thread needed a 100mn MWD vagabond applied to it!!!
Especially since we don't know when the new topic on the new forums will be available again
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.18 02:55:00 -
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Bump - since it seems these forums will be up for awhile...
CCP - Where is a comment on what is going to be done to fix FW???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.27 02:50:00 -
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Come on CCP - some input please? The thread got cleaned, so someone there IS reading it... DELIVER!!!
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.04.29 02:20:00 -
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Still want to know what is going on - just doing what CCP Manifest said and keeping this alive...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.03 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Think it's time to unsubscribe Har.
Seems CCP has completely given up on Eve and only see it as a cash cow full of people stupid enough to fall for their crap.
Nah - think I'll stick around - otherwise someone will want my stuff...
BTW - found THIS on massively earlier...
http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/12/06/eve-evolved-the-faction-warfare-mission-debacle/
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.05 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Humble EvolPants
Originally by: Orgon34
How many more of us are going to leave FW before they realise...
Many. And, realize*
ROFL - single mindedness of the Americans and their universal "we are right" view on spelling. Having flown with Orgon and heard him speak on Vent/TS3 etc..., I can assure you his spelling IS correct (he uses the Queen's English - she was the one in yellow on TV last Friday at a little wedding she attended).
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.10 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest If you missed it... here's a pretty good place to ask your questions about FW.
I have not in fact forgotten about this thread (I gaveth my word!), but hopefully the above (which I knew was coming) will get some answers I can repost here for you.
I've put a post in there (so has at least one other person) linking back to this thread. Does this mean we get some answers???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.13 02:31:00 -
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Untimely comment to bump the topic
In all seriousness, are we able to get some time frame on when we will even be able to generate some meaningful dialogue with CCP???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.16 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest In case ya'll missed the "ASK EVE" thread response...there's no need to bump. It'll come shortly after Soundwave returns from Russia and we can sit down together. I told you I can't quit you!
You've been patient for this long...just a week or so longer please.
Ohhhh - Does this mean that Soundwave will be leading his team into battle for us FW devotees???
Come on - tell us that they are going to use the AI from Incursions to create a dynamic and fluid FW environment that creates missions/goals (individual, corp and militia) for both sides that are intertwined - e.g. Amarr are pushing on system X, so Minnies are to defend it etc??? And the goals/missions update based on success/failure (remember how the story changed when playing the Wing Commander series...).
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.16 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin Ummm lets hope not.. I don't mind having various goals with-in FW but lets not push more PVE orientated content into what is supposed to be a PVP realm.
Not to mention it's not gonna help the current blob PVP environment to push all fighting into a hand full of systems. I don't want to see more PVP orientated around circling little buttons with NPC's pushing the fight in favor of one side or the other.
It COULD drive PvP too since the mission for the other team is to drive off the people trying to run the mission - the thought brings the following quote from Transformers movie (cartoon) to mind
"Come on, Arcee, we gotta get this launcher into place! Megatron's making his big push, and we gotta push back!"
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.17 03:02:00 -
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Interesting thread going abuot features people would like to see in the next expansion. Faction Warfare is seeing a good level of support.
The idea is to pick 5 of the following 10 that you would like to see
New nebulae graphics New turret effects New cyno-graphics and engine-trails Corp Logos on Ships T3 Frigates Full featured multiplayer Incarna Faction-war overhaul Supercap-balancing 4th bonus for assault frigs Gallente Balancing
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1511484
Quoting Results (16/5/2011) After almost 3 Pages of votings, the preliminary results are: -----------------------------------------------------------------
01. Gallente Balancing --> 34 02. Supercap-balancing --> 30 03. Full featured multiplayer Incarna --> 24 03. Faction-war overhaul --> 24 04. New nebulae graphics --> 19 04. 4th bonus for assault frigs --> 19 05. New turret effects --> 16 06. New cyno-graphics and engine-trails --> 15 07. T3 Frigates --> 13 08. Corp Logos on Ships --> 7
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.23 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest In case ya'll missed the "ASK EVE" thread response...there's no need to bump. It'll come shortly after Soundwave returns from Russia and we can sit down together. I told you I can't quit you!
You've been patient for this long...just a week or so longer please.
So he is back now right? Since that Alliance Torny 9 vid was done AFTER he got back right??? BTW - I'm not looking for feedback in the questions for dev thread as we have 0 chance of finding the feedback in that as it is so big and sooooooo trolled...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.25 03:11:00 -
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Bumping TOPIC even though we are told we don't need to as it at least gives people a visible topic to post in regarding WHY they are LEAVING the game...
COME ON CCP - GIVE US SOME ANSWERS!!!
We aren't expecting it to be fixed tomorrow. We ARE expecting some meaningful dialogue and timelines for when things can be worked on. Ideally bugs in the short term and some feature enhancements in the medium to long term!!!
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.27 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Lot of new complaints last night, back to the top.
Good to see people getting involved and leaving comments - keep them coming people...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.05.31 12:34:00 -
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Quote: REMEMBER NOUVELLE ROUVENOR!
You posted this on Facebook CCP - so you obviously remember that FW is still around
http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=jul02
So when are we going to here about what is going to be done to 1) Fix the issues/bugs 2) Deliver some of that excellence we have been hoping for??? (i.e. FW Iteration)
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.04 06:51:00 -
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Looks like this needs a bump again CCP...
There are lots of fix FW threads popping up - mostly asking for things like the RR <-5 giving faction loss bug and RR spawn plexing to be addressed as well as some chagnes to make the pvp mean something, rather then FW being an isk farm for carebears...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.06 02:15:00 -
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Seriously - what do we have to do to get some feedback here???
Start reporting our own posts so a human HAS to look at this thread? Or some other activity that probably violates the EULA in some way just to get some attention???
CCP - We just want some constructive dialogue to lay down a road map for some progress in FW... Your playerbase is crying out for it to support small scale PvP.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.06 02:46:00 -
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Just to be fair to Manifest, I did find this post
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1508537&page=2#35
Quote:
****************************** FACTIONAL WARFARE STUFF
There were many questions. Many. I will be working with Soundwave to get answers for you (not a new effort), yet there will be a slight delay though as right now he's headed to a player meetup in Moscow with CCP Daishi, Molock and Spitfire. Please bear with us.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.08 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Odelya d'Hanguest
Originally by: Rodj Blake In addition to the other excellent suggestions in this thread, could we please have a return to the days of the militias getting orders from VIPs (like here)?
It was good for immersion (for everyone, not just the RPers) and helped to focus the war onto specific systems.
Supportedùamong many other suggestions and the general ethos of this thread.
And while you create shiny stuff for my next beauty session in CQùwhy don't you add militia uniforms that are tied to rank and glory?
I like the uniform idea - unfortunately carebears will have uber ranks without ever shooting an enemy militia member (i.e. non-NPC) due to how FW works.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.08 02:48:00 -
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Link to a noob post - wanting to know if/how FW is broken
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1520709
There are the people you want to turn into long time subscribers right CCP???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.14 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: mkint Is CCP still ignoring this thread? I haven't checked on it in about a month. Long after CCP gave up on the pretense for caring about anything but $.
Seems that they are... Still waiting for something on the considered response that CCP are planning to give...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:32:00 -
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Just thought I would post (again) about wanting to know what is going on with CCP and their FW intentions...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 04:11:00 -
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I just read through the Incarna 1.0 patch notes. Well the good news is that CCP have made some improvements to FW. The bad news is that the below list appears to be all that has been done
- Factional Warfare NPCs now care about defending against their allies enemies
While this change is good, how about fixing the plex spawning issue so that the NPCs are there to care about defending against their allies enemies???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.21 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Har Harrison I just read through the Incarna 1.0 patch notes. Well the good news is that CCP have made some improvements to FW. The bad news is that the below list appears to be all that has been done
- Factional Warfare NPCs now care about defending against their allies enemies
This is excellent. Flyinghotpocket, CCP has taken pity upon thee and now you'll finally have some opponents tuned to your skill level. Hopefully the NPC's will enjoy the sheer pleasure ROFL-stomping you that us pod people do (over and over and over and over again).
The downside though, is that by fighting NPC's there will be no killmails for you to tamper with so you can fake your combat record and pretend you kill imaginary [AUTOZ] titans.
Going to chuck out the obligatory "You mad" meme here It will serve to bump the thread
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Originally by: Har Harrison
Going to chuck out the obligatory "You mad" meme here It will serve to bump the thread
Hahahaha. Mad? No.
Much of this thread has revolved around debate as to why players stick around in FW long-term after CCP has "abandoned" it. Pocket is one of them.
Killing pocket repeatedly has become almost routine, but remains a potent source of Minmatar entertainment. It wouldn't be the same without the QQ he brings to the table!
I said it was obligatory
I agree that FW seems to have far more interest then it may at seem to otherwise warrant - mostly due to players driving it.
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Still waiting ....
Soundwave is done with torny - what about Vegas??? And then do we get some love???
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:07:00 -
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I think Soundwave is in hiding at the moment. And everyone else is in damage control mode - something to do with not having time to fix content that retains subs and attracts new ones due to the servers lacking the ability to fit people into the major trade hubs...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ciar Meara well seeing the CSM is meeting atm, we'll just bump this in case they are reading the forums while listening to CCP's bull****.
Do you think that is possible (CSM reading this post AND caring enough about FW???)
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.07.06 02:33:00 -
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Still nothing?
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Posted - 2011.07.12 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake It's almost as though CCP are hoping that the issue will just go away.
And yet it doesn't...
It's almost as if there are a number of people who partake in FW that actually CARE about it and want to see it fixed/improved!!!
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.07.13 02:56:00 -
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Just want to point out that King Rothgar is quiting Eve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1546709 For those that know King, he used to fly with ARETR and was known to fly in Pred's late night fleets. He quit FW when he got bored of it due to the lack of CCP attention in regards to FW(along with some other former ARETR members). Now he is just bored of Eve.
These are the long term players that CCP is losing by not doing anything to improve/fix FW... I myself have found less interest in playing of late for similar reasons - chasing mission runner SBs is just not fun...
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.07.27 02:40:00 -
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Two months and no comment after being promised feedback... Come on CCP - the FW community wants some answers!!!
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.07.31 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Viziam
Originally by: Ciar Meara So whatcha think guys, should we just give up on this?
Perhaps it's best to give up now before CCP actually gives us hope...
yes! for christ's sake yes! I'm sick of seeing this stupid thread! CCP isn't going to fix anything any time soon. deal with it!
Thanks for sharing, but it isn't going anywhere...
Deal with it!!!
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Har Harrison
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Posted - 2011.08.02 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Erik Finnegan ...So, iterating on FW I would like to see. Though I do not find the crowd sourcing results very much in favour of FW...
FW doesn't need iteration, it needs a complete overhaul. Since team BFF seems to be the only flexible crew they have, with the rest following whatever release schedule there is, is it any wonder that people have given up on getting through?
Blueballed at Fanfest -> promised blog/statement as consolation -> blueballed on consolation prize ... That is the problem we have, hard as hell getting people riled up if one never gets any feedback
Maybe we need to get the various Militia's to sit in their respective high sec trade hub (Jita, Amarr etc...) and shoot statues etc... in protest to make CCP listen???
I tried a CCP Soundwave callout thread as well to try and boost the visability since he was the 3rd reply to the 0.0 call out one... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1560214 No CCP response yet - though some continued support...
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Posted - 2011.08.04 23:04:00 -
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Well, I've been doing a bit of FW plexing with some of the Amarr Militia guys the last few nights - has been kinda ok. Sure would be nice if we had something to talk about regarding IMPROVEMENTS to FW though CCP....
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Posted - 2011.08.08 23:22:00 -
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Yup - this IS still alive
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Posted - 2011.08.10 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Acrior So what we do is end the war and exploit the massive FW mission rewards so CCP will have to look it at... right? Right?
Well, that is one option. Stop FW being a sink and turn the faucet on as far as it will go... Though they will probably just decide to fix the issue by nerfing the missions knowing CCP
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Posted - 2011.08.15 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Paulize Dn'Injer Whoa, has there really been no round table? Pathetic. If this is the direction EVE has been heading lately I canÆt help but note the prevalent inept disregard. Get it together CCP -- all of you -- this is shameful.
I beleive someone from CCP DID turn up, but they had no idea about it. I beleive there was a scheduling conflict. Either way - no meaningful discussion occured WITH CCP - just notes of what the players said was taken I think. Nothing has been heard since other then promises that CCP would follow up on FW, but even those promises haven't been followed up on...
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Posted - 2011.08.19 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lost InCogneto Im looking at coming to the next fan fest ...................... \o/
CCP can i count on some one being there to chat about fw and have a beer with or am i waisting my time coming all the way from australia ?
cheers Lost
If the devs are being given free beer, it MAY be a possibility I guess
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Posted - 2011.08.19 02:54:00 -
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I have started a Plex for FW thread that can be found here
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1567389
Hopefully that will get the beer needed for them to show up for Lost!!!
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Posted - 2011.08.26 02:14:00 -
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Just thought I would add a comment here...
So anyway - since FW isn't getting any attention, where are the FW uniforms being added so we can at least stand around in our Quarters and look in the mirror wearing official militia get up???
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:56:00 -
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CCP Soundwave said at PAX that FW is a high priority. He also said low/FW would happen after the 0.0 revamp due to resources.
So how about some official feedback - what is the plan for FW CCP???
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Posted - 2011.09.01 05:12:00 -
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I updated the original post with a little summary of what has happened since the start of this thread in regards to FW since these forums will be locked (again ) soon with the coming (re-)release of the new Eve forums...
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Posted - 2011.09.05 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc I found PvP in a plex today. Seriously.
limited time offer - 13 plex for 199.99 reported by CCP Loktofeit | 2011.09.02 16:26:25 From now until September 16th, players can take advantage of a first time ever discount on bulk orders of PLEX. Pick up a pack of 13 PLEX for only 199.99. Play the market, pad your wallet, build your empire.
That's right folks - for just 199.99, you can get 13 plex to pvp in!!! CCP is dedicated to bringing MT to FW!!!
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Posted - 2011.09.05 09:42:00 -
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Bump in old forums...
I've got to head out and won't be back before DT - so I fully expect this to be my last post on the old forums. So I figured I should use it to bump THIS thread in the hope that it is immortalised on the front page of the archived old forums General Discussion topic list...
This thread WILL be continued on the new forums BTW
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Posted - 2011.09.05 12:51:00 -
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Well, I am back from touch rugby and the forums are still here. So to give a non-bump bump, I guess I will tell you all that we lost, I scored our only touchdown (yay for me) and CCP STILL haven't shown the slightist desire to make up the the FW community for what happened at fan fest 2011...
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Posted - 2011.09.06 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tokyo Rose FW was interfering with nullsec.
At its most popular there were more enjoyable and more importantly playable cap ship and small to medium gang fights in fw than in nullsec.
Not to mention the literal thousands and thousands of nullsec thralls dumping the nullsec game for fw.
The nullsec leaders then started crying like little children and ccp made sure to leave fw to rot with all the bugs and exploits.
All fw is now is a free wardec to go station camp and play the redock and ship up game over and over and over and over.
Go figure its a ghost town now.
The sad thing is there is more than a grain of truth to what you say - FW does provide for some great small scale fleet warfare, even with the use of limited caps. Shame the reasons to risk a cap are non-existent in terms of the rewards offered for PvP.
<tl;dr> BUMP!!!
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Posted - 2011.09.06 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc Even something minor, like LP rewards for finishing plex's, would go a long way to restoring interest in them. As is, though, I'm all for a reexamination of the entire plex system. 'King of the Hill' can be a fun victory mechanic, but only when you've got other players. Most of the time, you're just orbiting.
Anyways, I'm sure all of the relevant points can be brought up by players much more experienced in FW than I am. The kind of dedicated fans who were willing to travel all the way to Iceland to give a detailed account of their favorite game activity and how to revive interest in it.
Getting them together would be pretty fruitful, don't you think? You can make a roundtable out of it, even.
I see what you did there!!!
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